You probably know how difficult it is to truly be in ketosis. It is very hard to eat the correct food at the correct times. You can be tricked into eating something such as a big apple, drink a sip of the wrong kind of coffee and it a pretzel and your struggling to reach ketosis is over. This is a greater issue when talking about lifters. They have to ingest an amazing amount of protein every day. People who are really in ketosis have to get 80 to 90 percent of their calories from fat, and that doesn’t permit much space for protein.
Lifters debate all the time about whether they are required to consume a whole cow for the greatest muscle growth. So, this doesn’t get along with the keto rules that if you eat protein a 20 percent of total calories will take you out of ketosis. 20 percent is even a generous number. This small amount of protein every day would make the muscles of the bodybuilders and lifters to begin to shrink.
No Rules Work for Everybody
If you don’t provide your body with sugar, the body will break down protein to receive it, and that protein will come principally from the muscle tissues. Ketosis itself is your body’s method of attempting to maintain that protein and your muscles. But bring in a satisfactory quantity of carbs or protein and the body takes a pass on the ketosis process and proceeds back to use sugar as its energy origin.
The problem is, there are no rules that apply to everyone. One person might get knocked out of ketosis for having a regime that’s 20% protein, and another individual might get the same result for consuming a lot less.
However, the latest discussion regarding ketosis has reached a point when people say that the worries regarding gluconeogenesis which is the process when amino acids are converted to sugar are superfluous and that it doesn’t really occur when keto dieters eat high volumes of protein. At least not to the point where it knocks the body out of keto.
However, others claim that gluconeogenesis is a non-factor, and if the protein does take you out of ketosis, it’s due to the fact that the excess protein is providing oxaloacetate to acetyl-CoA in the Krebs cycle.
The significant point is regardless of the quantity of protein a bodybuilder or lifter needs to build muscle or maintain it is sufficient to take you out of ketosis state.
Studies Aimed at Diabetics Don’t Count
Some of the keto supporters point to studies that are regularly printed in diabetic journals. These experiments show gluconeogenesis does happen after a high protein feed but following very special events. Even so, they keep the quantity of sugar produced.
Those experiments do point that dietary proteins offer very little to glucose generation, but the test participants were not in the ketosis state in the first place. Generally, the subjects were people suffering from diabetes, or healthy people who’d just fasted overnight and were then given a high protein, zero-carb meal. Therefore, gluconeogenesis happened, but as keto supporters insist, only to an insignificant level.
Fasting overnight, though, is sufficient to drain anyone of their glycogen stores, so it’s not unusual that a meaningful quantity of gluconeogenesis didn’t happen in these test subjects.
Keto protein-deniers have to study cases like the one made by Veldhorst, et al where participants were actually drained of carbs – 0% carbs, 30% protein, and 70% fat. They were also depleted of glycogen stocks through training. They discovered that the low-carb, high-protein diet led to an increment in energy expense, 42% of which was demonstrated by an increment in gluconeogenesis.
That’s important, and enough to knock anyone out of ketosis quickly.
If lifters or bodybuilders want to lose fat, they have to do it in the traditional way. This means that they need to reduce caloric intake while eating protein intake of between 30 and 40% of total calories and reasonable amounts of functional carbs and fat.